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30th Anniversary Reunion
Over 60's In The Armed Forces Print E-mail

I am over 60 and the Armed Forces thinks I'm too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older that 42 to join the military. They've got the whole thing ass-backwards. Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join a military unit until you're at least 35. Besides, if you tell us old guys we are too old to do something, we will do it, even if it kills us doing it! For Starts: Researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, (if he's lucky) leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy. Young guys haaven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky sailor is a dangerous sailor. "My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry". We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some a***hole that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for a while. An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10am. Old guys always get up early to pee, so what the hell.

 Besides, like I said,  "I'm tired and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical son-of-a-bitch". If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brain-teaser. Boot camp would be easier for old guys. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we're used to soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling.

They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and didn't see a single 20 foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any push-ups after completing basic training. I can hear the Drill Chief in the "New Navy" now, "Get down and give me.... er ... One." Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet. An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, and how to start up a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head. These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harms way. Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten cowardly terrorists. The last thing an enemy would want to see right now is a couple of million p****d off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons who know that their best years are already behind them.

Also, we won't get in trouble for mistreating prisoners - we won't take any. If nothing else, put is on border patrol....we will have it secured the first night!

 

 
A Military Man Died Today Print E-mail
He was getting old and paunchy
And his hair was falling fast,
And he sat around the RSA Club,
Telling stories of the past.
 
Of a war that he once fought in
And the deeds that he had done,
In his exploits with his mates;
They were heroes, every one.
 
And though sometimes to his neighbours
His tales became a joke,
All his mates listened quietly
For they knew whereof he spoke. 
 
But we'll hear his tales no longer,
For ol' Bob has passed away,
And the world's a little poorer
For a military man died today.
 
He won't be mourned by many,
Just his children and his wife.
For he lived an ordinary,
very quiet sort of life.
 
He held a job and raised a family,
Going quietly on his way;
And the world won't note his passing.
though a Military man died today.
 
When politicians leave this earth,
Their bodies lie in state,
while thousands note their passing,
And proclaim that they were great.
 
Papers tell of their life stories
From the time that they were young,
But the passing of a serviceman
Goes unnoticed, and unsung.
 
Is the greatest contribution
To the welfare of our land,
Some jerk who breaks his promise
And cons his fellow man?
 
Or the ordinary fellow
Who in times of war and strife,
Goes off to serve his Country
And offers up his life?
 
The politician's stipend
And the style in which he lives,
Are often disproportionate,
To the service that he gives.
 
While the ordinary military man,
Who offered up his all,
Is paid off with a medal
And perhaps a pension, small.
 
  It's so easy to forget them,
For it is so many times,
That our Bobs and Jims
Went to battle, but we still pine.
 
It was not the politicians
With their compromise and ploys,
Who won for us the freedom
That our Country now enjoys.
 
Should you find yourself in danger,
With your enemies at hand,
Would you really want some cop-out,
With his ever waffling stand.
 
Or would you want a Military man,
His home, his country, his kin,
Just a common Military man,
Who would fight until the end?
 
He was just a common Military man,
And his ranks are growing thin,
But his presence should remind us
We may need his like again.
 
For when Countries are in conflict,
We find the Military man's part
Is to clean up all the troubles
That the politicians start.
 
If we cannot do him honour
While he's here to hear the praise,
Then at least let's give him homage
At the ending of his days.
 
Perhaps just a simple headline
In the paper that might way:
"OUR COUNTRY IS IN MOURNING,
A MILITARY MAN DIED TODAY."
 
- author unknown - 
 
This May Happen to You Print E-mail

A man walked into a supermarket with his zipper down.

A lady cashier walked up to him and said, "Your barracks door is open".

Not a phrase that men normally use, he went on his way looking a bit puzzled.

Just as he was about done shopping, a man came up and said, "Your fly is open,"

He zipped up and finished his shopping.

At the checkout, he intentionally got in the line where the lady was that told him about his "barracks door". He figured he would have a little fun with her, so when he reached the counter he said, "When you saw my barracks door open, did you see a Marine standing in there at attention?"

The lady (naturally smarter that the man) thought for a moment and said, "No, no I didn't. All I saw was a disabled veteran sitting on a couple of old duffel bags."

 

 
Review Forms Print E-mail

When claiming a medical sickness on a "Review Claim Form" take your review form to a doctor who understands problems associated with nuclear radiation, and have him write up about your condition. Post the "Review Claim Form" to War Pension Services P.O. Box 9448, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand.  You will receive a letter back from War Pension Services informing you to see a specialist. The specialist will send a report back to War Pension Services, who will send you another letter informing you whether it's accepted or not. If it is accepted you will be told of a percentage of your disability once that magic number has surpassed 75% (I think) you will be entitled to a "Disability Allowance".

 

If you know of simpathetic doctor's please let me know so that their names can be published here. 

North Shore (Auckland) 

Dr Philip Railton,   Takapuna Health Care  (Bracken Avenue)   Phone number is in phone book.

Dr J Roberts,        Sunnynook Medical Centre.

 
Study Backs Claims Print E-mail

Study Backs Nuclear test Veterans' Claims

(Dompost dated 16th June 2008) - by Ruth Hill

Nuclear-test veterans say the Government must finally "stop sitting on its hands" now international experts have upheld Massey University research exposing the extent of the genetic damage they suffered.

Associate Professor Al Rowland's world-first study - which showed naval veterans who were exposed to nuclear test in the Pacific 50 years ago had 300 per cent more genetic mutations than normal - has just been published in the prestigious journal Cytogenetic and Genome Research. 

  Experts who reviewed the paper said the results had significant implications for nuclear test veterans in New Zealand and in Britain.

"Because there will be no chance to repeat the investigation in the future, it is highly desirable and, in fact, necessary to publish the paper now," one wrote.

The Pulication is expected to pave the way for more studies on other groups, and bolster the case for a $36.5 million class action being taken against the British Government by New Zealand, British and Fijian veterans.

  Roy Sefton, chairman of the New Zealand Nuclear Test Veterans Association, which commissioned the study, said he expected the Government to act now rather than wait for the outcome of the legal action.

 "When the results first became public last year, the Government promised to respond when the study had been peer-reviewed and published.

"Well, now they have to stop sitting on their hands and do something."

Of the 551 Kiwi veterans involved in Operation Grapple (the code name for nine British tests carried out in the Pacific between 1957 and 1958) more that 400 are dead, mainly from cancer.

Mr Sefton, who was 17 when he served in Operation Grapple, said it was criminal that governments had been able to ignore the suffering of veterans and their children for so long.

  Nuclear test veterans became eligible for "war disablement pensions" only in recevent years, but they still must apply on a case-by-case basis.

Their children have access to free counselling, but can only get help with medical costs if they have spina bifida, cleft lip or palate, acute myeloid leukaemia or adrenal gland cancer.

Mr Sefton said someone with genetic damage of this magnitude would clkearly suffer health problems "and pass junky genes on to their children and grandchildred too".

  Any compensation package should be extended to other nuclear veterans, including those who served on Mururoa Atoll in the 1970s, and to serving defence personnel who mught be exposed to depleted uranium.

Mr Sefton said veterans were united in their cause and backed by highly respected scientists.

"We are going to fight till we get our settlement."

A preliminary court hearing will be held in London in February.

The veterans' lawyer, Gordon Paine, said publication of the reserch was "very important in terms of the legal aspect of the case".

"Publication means it can no longer be ignored."

Veterans Affairs Minister Rick Barker was unavailable for comment.

However, in March he said the Government was monitoring international research and the programmes and entitlements made available to the children of nuclear test veterans by other governments.

The latest research has been eagerly received by British veterans.

This year, the British Government agreed to fund an in dependant study into the health effects of its own veterans - as long as the Massey research was found to be credible.

Of the 22,000 British soldiers who witnessed nuclear tests in the 1950s and 1960s, only about 3000 are still alive.

 

 
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